Its jackass. Personally, Ive only seen a grizzly bear from the comfortable confines of a vehicle, but that boar in Yellowstone Park made a lasting impression. In your expert opinion is my 44mag redhawk with LBT heat treated solids weighing 300 grains adequate? I agree the 329 PD is ideal with Lower Recoil .44 Magnum Ammo 255 gr. Just no big name in the periodicals. The young boy said he could not feel the teeth because they were dull, but Paul did feel the scratches from the big paw. Not enough bullet weight. Loaded with a hard cast 250 gr bullet at about 1050. HSM .45LC 325 grain is a real stopper. When it comes to wheel guns should they be ported? Though perhaps semi-obsolete, if not obsolete for law enforcement The shop will have something to shoot almost every time regardless of where you are. Did they field dress and later skin it ? Jaguars range in size from about 100lbs up to 300lbs, run at speeds of 50 mph, and bite with a bone-crushing 1,500 PSI. I carefully googled this story using the locationImpossible to find any story that confirms that what you said id true. Found the bullet in the other ear, Weighed 270 grains. There are no stopping calibers; only stopping shots. I recommended getting a .357 Magnum or a larger caliber. They are most active between dusk and dawn, and generally avoid contact with humans. thanks again from a Liberal Gun Toting Okie! had the game warden not had his .357 Magnum holstered on his person the Grizzly Black bears and mountain lions can be killed if they cause death or injury to other people. .45 Colt may be questionable, but better than a .38. Humans travel about 21MPH tops.. Bears.. 35mph.. More than 12,400 mountain lions were killed between 1907 and 1963 and turned in for bounties, according to the Mountain Lion Foundation. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. The 357 magnum is able to kill a bear much better then the 9mm and the 38 special even though they actually shoot the same bullets. One must realize that with the adrendeline flowing, a moving target and possibly poor light conditions it is not easy to hit well with a hand gun no matter how good you are at the range! It seems to be a matter of carrying largest caliber you can for the situation, with the proviso that you be able to deliver sufficient rounds on target. I took my Colt .45 with a 7 barrel over, to do what needed to be done. It provides some seemingly good info, but some is just confusing and troublesome. I had never shot a bear before , so I decided to put it down with a shot to the next. Government paid hunters were also paid to do the same. Fortunately the latter emptied his 4 Smith and Wesson Model 66 Schalow was 10 years old at the time. Personally, I'd feel the best with a .44 mag, .45LC, or 45-70 in a Marlin carbine. 7.62 mm (.32 cal) out of a necked-down 9mm case. The BS in this article is deep. They only work if you have them with you. If that is the mountain lion in the background why is it field dressed. The recoil is quite severe for all of these loads and I cant imagine wanting or needing to go to the 460 Rowland! It is all filled with a bias against firearms.. In an ambush situation, if you havent been paying attention, you wont have much time to reactMost of the people I know use the Ruger Alaskan pistols in 44mag minimum, next in popularity is the 454 Ruger Alaskan. .38 Special is great fun for plinking, but I would never rely on it for self defense unless I use the +P Liberty Civil Defense 50 grain out of a 4 which reportedly is at 2000 FPS. I sure wanted to sit and talk to him about all the storys they brought back. You have entered an incorrect email address! Wolfe played for the Broncos from 2012-19 and the Ravens in 2020. I probably keep the fine folks at Magpul in business with my 50, 40 and 30 mag purchases. Im still alive without a scratch. A 10-year-old boy was killed by a mountain lion while hiking near Grand Lake in 1997, and an adult runner was killed in Idaho Springs in 1991. A few years back I went to Alaska, rented a 44 pickup camper,& spent 6 weeks in the boondocks, with only my wife. I know Phil has seen more bears killed than I ever will, but he got lucky. Incidentally I have 2 500 Smith mags, never carry them in bear country. However, I can get 2 aimed shots with my hot 10mm for every one with any big bore revolver Ive ever shot. I was hunting in Alaska well before most of your parents even drew a breath. 66% of kills among collared mountain lions were mule deer. be utilized for small game hunting: rabbit, squirrel, and grouse. In the springtime, when the streams are populated with fishermen, the bears are coming out of hibernation and are ravenous. The lion was dead before the mule Berry took and shook the lion. 44 mag power in a high cap auto loader. Oct. 14, 2020 6:15 PM PT. May 12, 2018. Yes and no.. Year later, shot a black bear same ammo, but out of a desert eagle way better results. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. I have had experience with all of them and know he is right on target. When they were hunted with dogs in the 1950s and 60s, many were shot with .22 rimfire cartridges from both rifles and pistols. Unfortunately it seems that a sow protecting her cubs, as she is hard wired to do, is killed then the cubs are then euthanized, or as I prefer to call it, killed. Are they prudent, not for me. I carry both in a Blackhawk Alaska Guide Holster in the field, and in a Galco leather CCW holster under my belt in town: since being on TV, I learned that stalkers can be just as dangerous a charging bear. Not being a cougar hunter, didnt pay much attention to it. Just food for thought Stay safe Brian. Hollow points sacrifice penetration for larger wound channel . Even with the hottest 460 I find the revolver to be controllable. 3-6 .357 mag with 200g hardcast at 1250fps or more, depending on barrel length. Mountain lions killed 15 dogs in 30 days near a Colorado town. I often have to carry elk quarters out in the Bitteroot mountans, which is heavy populated with wolves, grizzly, black bear, and moose, all of which I have had numerous too close for comfort encounters where Ive had to draw down. carry the biggest piece of iron that you can place multiple rounds accurately and in very little time, amigos.. By the time I am loaded with bow, backpack, and tree stand, I am at 50 plus pounds and I am 50+. .38 special have been a huge disappointment for me. The SW 460 mag xvr is the best choice in my opinion. COME AND GET IT! Shot placement . The key is putting the projectile in the right spot. There was also a guy who used the Air Force M6 .22 LR/.410 GA over/under rifle/shotgun. Just as with dangerous game rifles, using a cartridge that is too big to allow for proper shot placement isnt a wise idea; shot placement is everything. The capsaicin in the bear spray will act as an irritant and will likely make the animal retreat. I still carry that early 41 mag in bear country but just recently bought an early M-58 and am going to carry it as it is easier to draw with no adj sights. Until you dump a 15 rd mag into some calibrated ballistics gel, hold your amateur and mis-informed comments for all the other mommys wanna bes. Hollow points are better for stopping large game if you are pushing a fairly large bullet, 250 grain and larger, at fairly high velocity 1400 fps +the larger bullet with the higher velocity will give you enough penetration for the hollow point to do its job. Carrying a 9mm, 10mm, 45 acp, etc. Hardly know its even there. Cue the whining about how much of a shame it is to kill such a majestic animal. Suddenly everyone was yelling at Paul not to move and the somewhat lethargic lion placed his jaw on the boys head and put its paw on him. I rather be over gun then under gun. Almost no one practices with bear spray and almost no one can get their can to bear (pun intended) and spray within 4-5 seconds. If a domestic animal (pet/livestock) is injured or killed by a mountain lion, the owner has the legal right in California to have the mountain lion killed. I am reminded of a survival show that aired a few years ago. The only grizzly I ever saw that was dead right there.. A single bite around the throat from a mountain lion can be fatal to prey . He shot it twice point blank with his 9mm and the hog just shook its head and continued to walk around. Now before we take a look at particular models and calibers, lets get one basic premise out of the way: when the excrement hits the oscillator, any gun is better than no gun. I no longer use trick bullets or many jacketed bullets. Even had to qualify with it if you carried it as part of your job duties. With 158-grain bullets moving at nearly 800 fps, this probably represents along with the 9mm Luger the lower end of the spectrum, as far as a defensive bear gun goes. Or even for butchering livestock. I also have a Ruger Redhawk in 45 Colt and I carry my hand loaded 300 gr hard cast bullets. The cartridge will push a 180-grain bullet to a respectable 1,300 fps, and that little Kimber has a lot to offer. Published on February 15, 2019 02:47 PM. Planning to go, I figured that I didnt have the right gun for a possible bear encounter. I was very intrigued by their weapons selection. They have been conditioned to hear a gun and equate it to a free meal. Size. is probably better than nothing but foolhardy in my opinion. Recoil is managable and porting helps, not like 454 casull or 460 mag, no, let me guess 500 s&w is the only option, the first pistol to come with wheels! I love packing iron, but in a 44 mag, 300 grain load minimum for bigger critters. We hadnt thought of that. We dont know what caliber, make or model the handgun was. As an Army veteran, I had no problem with my shot placement just my faith in loads. A Utah friend of mine called to ask about using a .38 Special with a 4" barrel as a trail gun and a defensive gun in the mountains of his home state. Watch on. My first handgun was just that at age 18, and now I tote a Blackhawk Hunter in .45, loaded with 325 gr HC with GC and 22 grains of H-110 (Ruger Blackhawk or Thompson Contender ONLY!!!) Carrying a .38 snubbie in bear country is roughly akin to wearing a sandwich board that reads FREE LUNCH! Department spokesperson Peter Tira told LA Times: "It's been a day-to-day, hourly kind of situation. After I put it down with my .357 magnum, we found both 9mm rounds stuck in the skull. As an outdoorsman, I enjoy being afield in all sorts of capacities. At least .40 caliber, 300 grains and 1,000 fps. For this update, we found another .22 rimfire case, two additional 9mm cases, another .38 special case, three additional .357 magnum cases, another 10mm case, five additional .44 magnum cases . Both holsters always pack into camp with me. The bear was hurt so it couldnt run thank God abd CVA. I saw one 200 yards from my home while deer hunting several years ago. Lions are very powerful and usually kill large animals, such as deer and elk. Ive hunted brown bear three times with a hand gun only. Commander. killed a mountain lion years back with a 3 inch 629, 240 grain hollow points, was not impressed. And those advanced industrial countries will collapse when their native population collapses in 20-30 years. I had a face off not far from lake Iliamna with that combo and would not have traded it for the world. thanx again. While being careful not to say Bear Spray is the Cats meow.. (something to do with not wanting to have their pants sued off by someone who follows their articles advice and whose relatives sue? I call those DGUs as easily as a person on person. Now thats an appropriate comment. Curious if anyone has evaluated any of the older Cold War Warsaw Pact pistols. Its not the bear in the fight, its the fight in the bear. I . The black bears have been stopped with pistols, rifles, shotguns and once with an ax. But, he says, for now, money is tight and he likes his old service size S . Natural enemies include other large predators such as bears, lions, and wolves. Worse is the comment on using a .38 Spl in bear country is better then no gun: BS, if your not prepared, dont go! Poisons, like these rodenticides, harm lions. A 22 may kill a mountain lion, but a 44 magnum will kill their soul as well. I was able to aim and take the shot; it tore me up having to kill that nuisance bear that should have been relocated. Well there is some in one instance provided no less by the original fellow who created sells Bear Spray Now you find a lot of mumbo jumbo to suggest bear spray is no less effective that a firearms.. then the predictable firearms in parks concerns.. Firearms safety To sum up when you do read the common information .. BTW the 2nd encounter was by a friend who was carrying that old M572 shots on a wounded grizzly same load did him in. Its certainly not the lightest sidearm weighing in at just over 3 pounds, fully loaded in its holster but when Im forced to enter bear country, I have absolutely no worries. After all bears are quite well armed are they not? Its a free country Plinker you are free to engage in Prayer, Ritual and Incantations by the light of the moon. The first was many years ago when I was in Alaska. would have killed him by a horrible mauling! A good .357 Magnum and I really like the Kimber K6s will definitely come in handy. If used in a custom 5 shot 45 colt with bullets and a cyl. ; Dog breeds that are large, powerful, and possess protective instincts, like the German Shepard, are excellent dogs to have . Mountain lions dont have a reputation for requiring powerful firearms to put them down. I am from Houston, TX. Of course the welfare of humans (the public) must always come last. I have had to kill a couple Grizzlies, and have had numerous Mexican stand offs, over moose or caribou kills. I am 80 years old remember my dad had a meat market . Being aware that sounds and smell plays a role in a bears survival by detecting prey, keep food or harvested deer meat or other game tightly contained as it would be analogous to swimming in blood filled water with man-eating sharks. So that information has sort of vanished.. Not your problem when facing a legitimate threat from a bear. 9mm & 38? What would make a good companion piece [long gun] regardless of sidearm? I would rather have a .44 mag with a 6 barrel or the 454 Casull but it was a practical upgrade and is light enough with 5 rounds to carry on long hikes. Im more concerned with the organized gang activity here in Denver than all of the wild animal encounters in the universe. No bear or cubs life is worth a human life. The .45 Colt (L) and .454 Casull (R). Question whats your life worth to you. He has 158 grain, cast SWC and SJSP flat point, +P ammuntion that are showing 890 FPS muzzle velocity on the boxes. With a 3-inch barrel and a six-shot cylinder combining for a weight of just 25 ounces, this gun was made to be both carried and shot. I know there are some folks out there that carry handguns in the bush, but in a dozen years I didnt meet many, either agency folks or sportsmen. For College Campuses! The female mountain lion in a chilling faceoff with a solo trail runner in Utah wasn't trying to kill him. Its a simple concept. This makes cougars great jumpers, able to leap from the ground 18 feet up into a tree. Im sure that by now youve all heard about famous Alaskan bear guide Phil Shoemaker (grizzlyskinsofalaska.com) , who thwarted a grizzly attack with a Smith & Wesson 9mm automatic, loaded with Buffalo Bore hard cast ammunition. My new Ruger Super Blackhawk can handle hot + P 45 colt loads. One lion can consume up to 20 or 30 pounds of meat in a single meal. Just stay away from me because you are just asking for trouble. As to the power of black bears, I shot a big boar with a 240 grain CVA slug at about 60 yards. I stopped the pickup and as it went down the incline one shot hit the abdominal cavity and another between the shoulder blades, it crawled about two feet and died. First you start off by saying a Judge or Governor is not what you want for bear country, then end by saying you carry a Redhawk in .45 Colt for bear. DRT. Phil has over three decades of experience guiding hunters and fishermen, and understands their habits as well as anyone else alive. If you choose bear spray as your only alternative more power to you. With those animals ranging from 30 pounds to 1200 pounds, there is no single optimum caliber/bullet combination. A man accused of taking part in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot is now facing house arrest for killing a mountain lion in Colorado - with a gun he wasn't supposed to have.. Patrick Montgomery was . The BFR 45-70 was not mentioned. That said, the 4-3-1 is a simple and effective rule of thumb. These lions belong there. A large caliber handgun is a must. Id wager that Ive walked within feet of bear and cougar many times without realizing that they were there. Hunters killed off mountain lions in the park in the 1930s but the animals moved back in during the 1980s. Gonna do that with a 45LC or .44 mag? I simply killed her with kindness, responding: for the same reason you dont buy bathroom tissue, one sheet at a time, MAMM. Lightweight and well-balanced, I had a chance to spend a bit of time with this wheelgun at the SHOT Show in Las Vegas. I own a 45 Colt Ruger Bisley with a 5 1/2 inch barrel ,among other larger caliber handguns , and it is far and away my favorite for handgun hunting or a defensive woods gun. For those not familiar with this gun, think Dirty Harry. The .44 Magnum is definite bear medicine. No thanks. Mountain lion facts. A shotgun with buck shot would be handy if it is in your yard. This is why I prefer my .460 Roland it has compensator for better follow on second shot. @1,3000+ FPS, a 255 gr. Cork Graham (corkgraham.com) , a fellow writer, hunter, and Alaska resident not to mention an actor on the Discovery Channel had a bit of a different perspective. This was a glaring example of surprise; this area, while remote, rugged and wooded, wasnt known for its bear population, very few had ever been seen there, but that one bear had my employees undivided attention. No thanks. My buddy Marty Groppi who enjoys the famous trout streams of Upstate New York carries a Smith & Wesson Model 29 in the classic .44 Magnum, a combination that will most definitely save your bacon. DRT. elk You need that big chunk of lead to penetrate deep and crush stuff as it goes. Ivy. Teardrop-shaped toes. and females' territories can range up to 60 square miles. Good article. bobcats Personally, I do my best to avoid any encounter that could turn ugly, but thats not always the case. on this subject is this: self defense/house protection/concealed carry is only half After a comment like that, Im certain that youre an expert in the art of defensive purse swinging. I hope those guides told you that if you fire a round, bears start coming from all directions to eat the free gut pile. That being said I would never recommend a .22 for bear protection or hunting. Companions showed up shooting to save the day. having confidence in your weapon. This is largely down to a lack of resources in their own habitats. All shots were heart lung ,,,edit,, All shots were attempted heart lung. Perfect gun to have, I dont own one to date but I would love to have a monster K frame, you could practice with 45 long Colts. News California Dogs Wildlife Pit Bull. Reply. A 300gr bullet at 1000 fps has 666 ft-lbs of energy. Their saliva or blood can kill you even after the animal itself is already dead. Carry a 5 S&W 500 loaded with 700 gr hardcast from Ballistic Supply. A revolver is a one threat gun so unless you are Jerry Miculek you will run out of ammo with a revolver. He said he was not scared of all the trips he made. If the mountain lion successfully ambushed a wolf, the fight is immediately over, and the wolf is dead due to a pierced skull or ripped throat. No HPs! The Mountain Lion will return to feed on the prey for up to 10 days. Mountain lions have a size advantage, a power advantage, and more weapons in their arsenal to kill a wolf. When confronted by a threat.. you need to tick off a very short, well reasoned and practiced list. Even if it is based upon a reasonable extrapolation from current self defense doctrine. After all that I have come to some conclusions about killing things with a handgun. Mountain Lions have been known to take out horses, cattle, sheep . I want POWER ! Lions or parts cannot be taken out of Colorado unless inspected and sealed. They are thin skinned and with a broadside shot would drop it like a rock, with one shot. In the question of "Is the .22 LR Long Rifle within the ideal range of suitable calibers for cougar or . Chances are youll only get to use one? Certain poisons meant to kill rodents, called anti-coagulant rodenticides, end up in the tissues of mountain lions. Its been years since Ive regularly shot revolvers. Answer (1 of 2): Plenty of them. I carry a 10 round 9mm when bow and black powder hunting in Black Bear country. Holy shit! But so After feeding on its kill, the lion will cache the prey, or bury it in a secluded spot. It will drive a 300-grain bullet to over 1,600 fps. Take it from someone who has been nose to nose with many big bears by accident if youre going into bear country willingly take as big a double action revolver as you can keep all rounds in the target black. That accounted for its lethargic behavior when it quietly approached they boy and his cousin near a river in Arizonas Tonto National Forest. In the end the animals will lose as even the anti-hunting crowd will realize that dangerous animals cannot be tolerated around civilization as there is no room for both humans and dangerous animals or wild animals that destroy crops. Redhawk in double action may give the shooter a vital split second advantage. I have never had a chance to stop a bear yet buy was close to one in Yellow Stone park a few years ago when the bear came Carry the most powerful gun you can actually effectively use. Bears, wild critters, thats all very nice and fluffy. you rig will protect you. I will take it to heart and now that Ive learned the 4 3 1 rule Ill not forget it, and not fail to abide by it while in bear country, and quite probably every time Im hunting. I believe that folks who do their own reloading can increase the powder and velocity of this caliber, but I am reluctant to try the beefed up bullets in a Scandium or polymer framed weapon. With the right bullet most large caliber handguns will end the confrontation in your favor if done this way. Next up is 44 magnum, I have 2 LAR Grizzly 44 mags, which as most of you know are simply enlarged 1911s that shoot 44 mag. Speaking of the 10mm, theres no mention. Theres no such thing as overkill. 9mm is acceptable against two legged foes, but with an angry mountain lion you want something with some real punch to it. While out horseback riding, I cant tell you how many rattlers Ive killed rattlers with my 9mm. is excellent. It is not that you have to out run the bear, you just have to out run the slowest member of your party. 07-11-2013, 08:10 AM. The mountain lion will most likely attempt to tackle you and crush your skull or bite your throat. Regardless, I draw the line at 10mm and 45 Super as my bottom 2 choices in bear country. Now that we have hogs in the area, I want to upgrade to either an AR pistol in .50beo, a revolver in 500SW / 454Casull. This would include insanely lar. The 12-year-old in Alaska who just shot the brown with the shotgun is the son of a good friend. Almost all .460s are semi-autos. and the 45 colts are equal if used in modern stout pistols. If a close attack by a bear happens, I sure wouldnt want a single action revolver. Browning on your sail boat, that will keep you happy ! In Colorado, population estimates range from 3,000 to 7,000 mountain lions. He put his paw on his shoulder. Next She hid, and downed it with one behind the ear at very close range, and followed up with five more (all the bullets she had) to make sure. The .45 Colt has long been my favorite cartridge in the Blackhawk. With a 5 inch un-ported barrel, 300 grain hard cast solids, cut an X on the point with a fine hack saw about 1/8 of an inch deep. This is no problem as we are talking about a custom pistol anyway. RIP ammo is fine against flesh, as in human flesh. By Mary Forgione. Of course, I dont live in Alaska, nor have I ever killed a bear. The 454 would probably be better and I did have a 500 S&W in 4 inch but as heavy as it was I figured it was easier to carry a 12 ga pump on a sling and let someone carry out the meat while I protected them. .38 Special is great . Mine rides in a Diamond D Guides Choice model. He said none. think of anything better to own, carry, keep, and have instantly accessible than a good Most exhibit the same irrational fear of bears as the rest of the country and irrational fear does little to generate rational ideas. A mountain lion has slaughtered 27 lambs on a farm in Northern California but did not eat a single one. Mr. Massaro, it is men like you who make our country and our military great! 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Sources Which brings up the old but true adage. Magnum Research 45-70 isnt bad either ! The 357 mag is much better then the 40S&W as well. Remember one thing in Bear country. In Alaska, meat is often removed from a kill site via a frame pack and two strong legs, and all that blood creates a scent trail like a flashing All-you-can-eat buffet advertisement. Not to be the asshole of the crowd, but a Grizzly is an Ursus arctos horribilis as opposed to just the Ursus arctos, or Brown Bear. Mag seemed the best choice, at 100 yds a 375 H&H appeared even better, and at 25 feet a 155 mm didnt seem large enough! Do I want to use one as my sidearm? LOL. Its time for some lab work, and the Feds arent going to let us stake a few bears out in someones back forty to test loads out on. More is always better and the bullet is the key. The wife and I carry 7.5 Ruger Redhawks in 480 Ruger. 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