That is the case with our system and the walls between me as the host and our core - I remember many of her memories crystal clearly and it can be hard to tell if they are mine or if they are hers. Ive gone through quite some trouble because it wasnt recognized during therapy, because it has been painful and scary to go through intensely separated moods with a change of behavior, sometimes hating/repressing the other mood while I was in a certain mood (manly+fearless, feminine+empathetic, fearful+child-like, feeling like someone else), and not understanding what my mind was doing, nor any psychologist until I found someone who did kind of understand but they started messing with my head and not recognizing the painful traumas associated with people being intrusive and manipulative. Welcome to r/OSDD, a community for those affected by otherwise specified dissociative disorder. There arent 1000s of things it could be. I also advocate against ableism and harassment. These alters protect the main identity from awareness of trauma. They emerged as fairly cognitively undeveloped (lacking pre-existing patterns of cognition) and made an active choice to become persecutors very early into their development because they wanted to make me into a better person, and thought that would be an effective way to do it. In the meantime, we will be continuing to push the idea that dissociation is truly a spectrum disorder! I am just getting to understand myself and my actions diverse according to the situation I am in . Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I havent read about this before but it has to be so that everyone is different. This diagnosis was known as dissociative disorder not otherwise specified (DDNOS) before the DSM-5. The ICD-10 description of dissociative identity disorder is not based on an understanding of DID as a childhood-onset, complex, posttraumatic developmental disorder. Also included in the DDNOS category are atypical DID cases in which there are classic DID symptoms but no amnesia between identities, because the diagnosis of DID includes the requirement for the presence of amnesia. Not only was I meeting people with multiplicity; these individuals entering my life were normal human beings with much to offer. Wanting to be better but not knowing what was wrong. As you can imagine, OSDD-1, in either forms, is difficult to spot and can be a struggle to diagnose. ), Mobile Links:[About] [FAQ] Thank you, this has been very informative. On the other hand, a switch that is forced is not wanted by one of the alters involved. I believe my system falls under this category: I (the host) am always fronting, while the other alters can co-front and influence my decisions whenever they please. For those with OSDD-1a, this is due to a lack of two or more sufficiently differentiated alters, and for those with OSDD-1b, this is due to a lack of amnesia between alters. My therapist described it as a dissociative mechanism, but has not labeled it exactly. However, as some systems do only use the term trigger to refer to negative stimuli that causes a dissociative or, Switches can be slow, quick, or uncontrollably rapid. DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER (previously known as Multiple Personality Disorder) is the most severe and chronic manifestation of dissociation, characterized by the presence of two or more distinct identities or personality states that recurrently take control of the individual's behavior, accompanied by an inability to recall important personal Not an issue. You might lose a lot of details or misremember the important bits. Please give this a read! But non-switching systems still exist. cPTSD or PTSD is a very common comorbid diagnosis. Someone might have told you that you did or said something that you dont recall. Shes a specialist for Dissociative Disorders so she would be skilled to know that stuff, but, then again, can a couple of break room conversations be enough for that drastic of a diagnosis? Necessary cookies are absolutely essential for the website to function properly. We are a system with OSDD 1b (fully formed alters with no amnesia), and we all feel validated in knowing that there are others like us and we arent the only ones who exist as separate people and switch regularly, but without amnesia. I mentioned my latest CPTSD hijack after having a really good, wholistic month (I went on a road trip to help someone else and found the trip was incredibly healing for me too; I felt nearly human and almost whole for the first time in my life, and then came triggering news and the crash of my good month. In order to receive a diagnosis for dissociative identity disorder, you must display Recurrent gaps in the recall of everyday events, important personal information, and/or traumatic events that are inconsistent with ordinary forgetting. In clinical circles, it is often taken to mean amnesia between parts, so that if the apparently normal personality (ANP) is fully co-consciousness for what other parts are saying and doing (especially the emotional personalities or EPs) then that is not full DID. I would love to feel I knew what I was and that I could give a name to something. Then e switched again once morning was drawing close. Sometimes there is clear separation and total amnesia, but other times the lines can become so blurred that it is hard to tell who is who. And Spiegel et al (2011, p.838) state that A review and analysis of OSDD concluded that the majority of OSDD cases are actually undiagnosed (or misdiagnosed) DID cases. So something is clearly going wrong. We have 19+ alters, and our collective pronouns are they/them. I feel like I'm still doing things but Feels Different. Wait, is whole possible now? no such thing as an outlier when everyone is so different lol. The Plural Association is the first and only grassroots, volunteer and peer-led nonprofit empowering Plurals. But I cant work any more, because I cant stay present to do it. I have terrible memory too and sometimes I think my alters play as me and I don't even know when ive switched. And even if it is there is likely a trauma based reason. That includes what causes it, factors that influence its presentation, how alters are created, how switching works, all the current science behind this stuff, etc. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. I often describe it like I am on a system. It may be that the alter that was at front has unexpectedly retreated, requiring another alter to quickly take control of the body in order to prevent injury, embarrassment, or other such problems or that the alter who is switching out is pushing past a weaker alter against their wishes. At times the pain so bad that the desire to die returned. Generally Switches are grouped into three categories; consensual, forced and triggered. These alters protect the main identity from awareness of trauma. On the other hand, passive influence may also lead to certain memories, emotions, sensations, or views becoming inaccessible to the fronting alter until the influence ends. Other times, it feels.like a switch flicking in my brain and then the feeling that if that part were not a part of my life, it would.be leading a completely different life. But at the end of the day they are just like you. I cannot describe the relief we felt knowing that there was a category of systems explicitly for those who did not fit neatly into the DID criteria. For dissociative identity disorder (DID) to develop, there is usually chronic trauma in early childhood along with significant problems in the child-parent relationship. I also struggle to name my alters because all together we make up who I am and none of them were ever acknowledged by the world, and to a point even myself, for so long. I hope one day your plurality is something that you can take pride in. Thats all I can say. Ive never been diagnosed, so I have no clear answer on this, but I do identify with your definition of dissociative amnesia, rather than how its usually interpreted to be. A subtype of consensual switches are planned switches that were agreed upon ahead of time. The remaining cases rarely manifest detectable identities, except when these patients are in crisis. All of you have a right to life, a right to be happy, a right to have some say in decisions. Emotions were ripped from me and cast into the maelstrom. How are major life decisions going to be made? This can involve several alters fronting over the course of an hour or even within a few minutes! An output signal switching device (or OSSD) is an electronic device used as part of the safety system of a machine. Below, Ive written up a non-exhaustive list of common symptoms in DID/OSDD. They are not adults pretending to be kids. Horrible beyond belief, yet necessary. Most strikingly perhaps, people labelled as OSDD may not feel that their condition is taken as seriously as dissociative identity disorder. Sandra in our system has described it as I dont stop fronting, but who that I is shifts. No we will not be left behind, we will always be with him and a part of him. One of them, called Mind, was a very mean voice in my head for all those years. Also, at one moment, I would be okay with something someone said and then only for me to become intensely furious after an hour. Part of recovery it is. For example, a system that has distinct members but does not switch would still be OSDD, despite not fitting into either A or B. If two alters choose to switch with one another, they usually have some degree of co-consciousness with each other and could both choose to remain at front, or actively aware of the outside world, after the switch. Its so nice to meet others that feel the same way. You might experience moments where you dont feel in control of what youre saying or doing. A body with multiple identities is known as a system. My system usually falls into that categoryits OSDD 1b I think? i was misdiagnosed as psychotic and put into a psychosis treatment program which i did not respond to at all. This was a truly amazing article. Its clear to me that there is a spectrum of these things. Since DID/OSDD are more complex forms of PTSD, you or other alters might experience the symptoms of complex PTSD. Total psychological, emotional and physical recall of events. She says: My advice to clinicians is that until they have met an alter, it is not DID. The good news is that 1a and 1b are not the only categories for OSDD systems. Sometimes, it might feel like you are numbing out pain or sensations. I can watch everything that Im saying and doing, but its like I cant do anything about it and I dont know whats going to happen next. Modes in BPD don't have a separate sense of self. All of these points present certain issues for people with the OSDD label. Sometimes might you feel like you are watching yourself, as if you are having an out of body experience. Whole is terrifying! We discussed the results but not the diagnosis (I know its mostly for insurance anyway, but I like to do research so I like to know whats going on). This is a complex area of debate, because as Spiegel et al, in their paper Dissociative Disorders in DSM-5 (2011, p.839), point out: According to Kluft and Dell, only 15% of dissociative identity disorder cases regularly manifest easily observable alternate identities during diagnostic interviews. [1] Along with Unspecified Dissociative Disorder it replaces the diagnosis of Dissociative Disorder Not Otherwise Specified (DDNOS). Both full switches and "partial intrusions" of alters are described in more detail by Dell in the paper"A New Model of Dissociative Identity Disorder". It's like "my" POV just changes. DDNOS is seen by many people as a not yet or a not quite version of dissociative identity disorder and although it is supposed to be a residual category and only given to a few people, in fact the vast majority of people diagnosed with a dissociative disorder fall into this category. Its very interesting, informative, and definitely worth your time! We are The Alexandrite System, when we first discovered our plurality, we spent months confused and distressed because we didnt fit into the very rigid DID mold. We and our advertising suppliers use these technologies to personalise the advertising you see. DID/OSDD - DID is short for Dissociative Identity Disorder and OSDD is short for Other Specified Dissociative Disorder. DID has shown me very tangibly the ways people change significantly internally and externally though, as this is no longer the case and is not a problem nor a source of worry for us now. Identifying or personal information is not collected on this website, and the data collected is not sold to or shared with third party services. There are as many Plural experiences, as there are Plurals. We went from being able to communicate internally very clearly but with strong amnesia walls and difficulty distinguishing switches happening between neutral and non-violent alters (and no switches happening for a while or ever for some alters), to having all but two of us go dormant and it just being a daily head-to-head assault of violence and abuse, to taking anti-psychosis which created communication barriers in the system but obviously didn't "cure us", to years later being confronted by the disorder again and seeing alters come back from dormancy changed or fused, to finally working together coherently, to now 6 of us in a happy system striving to make a life worth having fought for. Another issue, mentioned by a number of people without either distinct parts or amnesia, is that they have less distance and protection from the traumatic nature of their memories, or the raw emotion of the traumatised parts of themselves. Your early system days should be spent getting used to the idea of having other people in your head and getting to know said people. You might sometimes experience the loss of a physical function without a medical cause, such as your sight, hearing, speech, or feelings of hunger. OSDD is not diagnosed by subtypes, unlike its predecessor, DDNOS, and . So if you have DID or OSDD, you will likely heavily dissociate, you'll have alters tied to repeated intense traumas, and even with OSDD-1b it's likely that you'd experience occasional dissociative amnesia/memory issues. Emotional neglect can lead to a pretty profound disconnection from yourself; depersonalization, depression, a sense of purposelessness. It all seems very muddled. well, its both. But I know its more than that. So one option, favoured by many people that I have been in contact with, is to merge the categories and to count the condition as DID/OSDD and leave it at that. Above all, all forms of dissociation need to be validated for their unique contribution to survival. They are in no way associated with ddlg/clg/cgl-re. So, they want to share what happened and how they felt, but I can only handle small doses. If this is causing distress or difficulty for you, seek out a professional who specializes in DID to help you sort out whats going on. This seems to me to be a real issue that again the DSM criteria do not sufficiently address. Alter - A dissociated identity, found in DID and OSDD. The important thing is that the labels people give themselves are helpful to them, to meet their specific needs. Even close friends who have expressed previous interest in knowing which alter is out may find that the DID system tries to hide switches from them and that only a few alters that feel very comfortable around the friend are actually willing to make their presence known. Check this PDF for the symptoms of C-PTSD. Thats not really how DID and OSDD work. So for some people, their alters or parts are only obvious to other people during times of crisis. She asked me to sketch the parts I am aware of, so I did. Triggered switches are especially likely to be quick, but too many triggers or too much overall stress can also lead to rapid cycling. Passive influence can be described as intrusions from alters that are not currently prominent in the mind or using the body. antipsychotics don't do shit for me, and they can control my body to a limited extent (stuff like raising an arm or making me pee). Many voices, many children, each with their own story, voices to be heard and listened too. And then, it was wanting to arey myself in a different way. The belief that DID is overdiagnosed & primarily diagnosed in America. In short, the UK-favoured ICD-10 is based on research and clinical literature from before 1980 little wonder that dissociative disorders are so poorly picked up in the UK. You might find that your memory is unreliable. I don't have OSDD/DID, but on two occasions where I was in an unsafe and triggering situation, the first time I turned into this older masculine and calm dude, the second (yesterday ago heh) into this caring 40yo+ female motherly figure. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The person with OSDD with less elaborated parts may find this harder to do, and the perceived shamefulness of such actions and expressions may inhibit this exploration of dissociated aspects of the personality and the persons past experience. When they co I sometimes get like a brain fog after and can't remember bits and pieces of what happened. You might have moments where you feel like you are in a dream or a fog. You might feel confused or distressed because you do not identify with the same age, gender, or species as your body. Normally, a reed switch is constructed of two thin metal strips, or reeds, which are sealed in a glass tube. At one level that is eclectic theory, but in practice it can mean that a person with OSDD has fewer adult parts to help share the load. this is the first time I have had someone accurately articulate my experience. Other specified dissociative disorder ( OSDD) is a mental health diagnosis for pathological dissociation that matches the DSM-5 criteria for a dissociative disorder, but does not fit the full criteria for any of the specifically identified subtypes, which include dissociative identity disorder, dissociative amnesia, and That would be considered OSDD-1a. They cant be allowed to take over. Loved and feeling safe is possible now, if only I can reach out and accept it, A severe case of OSDD, too many EPs to count and keep track of, somewhere between 50 and 100. Alters who act out like this are deeply traumatized, are confused, feel unheard, etc. You might have moments where you discover evidence of your memory gaps, such as text messages you dont remember sending or purchases you dont remember deliberating. Only a body, nothing important. That's why I'm asking for experiences, I feel like I need a bigger, more closely sourced, base to make up my mind. Until that time, a diagnosis such as dissociative disorder not otherwise specified (DDNOS) might be more appropriate. Necessary cookies enable core functionality such as security, network management, and accessibility. However, even with consensual switches, the alter who takes a step back, so to speak, may then retreat inside for whatever reason. Thank you. Hope this helps <3, Also: possessive switching is when you genuinely feel like someone else is in the body instead of you (so the consciousness stays with the alter that switched out), meanwhile non-possessive switching is when you feel like you become said alter (so the consciousness stays with the body). (DNI: If you have been blocked, please do not interact. Ive come to find the youngest one is actually two who are fairly close in age. I don't think of things as like.. they "will get better" but moreso that they will change, and that is something to aim for. Where EPs are also less autonomous and less likely to be out, these traumatised parts of the personality can end up being neglected or ignored: if a person with OSDD has non-distinctive traumatised parts of their personality, it can be harder to give them a voice and the time and space they need to bring their trauma to the fore, than it is for a clearly individuated EP with a name and age. The most well-known system roles are Host, Protector, Trauma Holder, Caretaker, Little, Persecutor and Gatekeeper. For example, a system that has distinct members but does not switch would still be OSDD, despite not fitting into either A or B. Answer - An OSDD (Other Specified Dissociative Disorder) system is a group of alters, formed by repeated childhood trauma from ages 1-12 usually. When I am all the way at the end of the scale I experience significant dissociation but never full amnesia. Vote 0 comments You might hear voices, such as voices arguing or commenting on your actions. Were not doctors or clinicians and our nonprofit, our work, and this website in no way provide medical advice, nor does it replace therapy or medication in other ways. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. We are becoming stronger and one day may be whole. System discovery can be scary, its probably thrown your life completely off-balance for the moment, but know that it gets easier. These alters protect the main identity from awareness of trauma. Your healing journey is very much appreciated and is very encouraging! DID/OSDD System Roles navigation search There are many so-called "Roles" in a dissociative identity disorder (DID) or Other Specified Dissociative Disorder (OSDD) system. But the onslaught and angry and aggressive voices waging violence against me in my head was a daily, constant battle. While this disorder is hard to live with, we often lead fulfilling lives. all they are, and all they have ever been, is my abusers. We'll assume you're ok with this, but you& can opt-out if you wish. Being that therapy techniques never work with extreme stress, I was hoping to learn a few new things to try. they can't front and they're very angry about it, which they take out on me pretty much 24/7. In the end, bereft of emotions, self, body and identity, I lived. In a moment, my interests, name, vocal inflections, gender- change. ), Complex trauma is also known as developmental trauma in that it is trauma that is chronic, pervasive, and it happens early in development from, say, birth to teens. In fact, a lot of your switches until you figure out how to switch voluntarily may happen without you realizing at all, or only realizing after the fact. It may be important for some people with OSDD to distinguish their experience from that of people with dissociative identity disorder and it would be good for people in this category to come forwards and write about their experience to help people, clinicians in particular, understand the unique characteristics of life with OSDD. For DID awareness day, I want to bring awareness to the vast spectrum of DID and OSDD symptoms. Paul Dell (Dell & O'Neil, 2009) argues convincingly that the externally-observable 'signs' of switching between personality states are only a very small part of what dissociative identity disorder is like in practice . It provides a coded signal which, when interrupted due to a safety event, signals the machine to shut down. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. But that can be cold comfort, and it is a basic human need to feel that we fit in, that we have somewhere to belong. This author does not have any more posts. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Get a free 104-page Trauma Survivors Resource Guide when you join my mailing list. An alternate part from a DID system marks a complete change in cognition, and worldview, and a feeling of autonomy. Weve also found that OSDD systems dont receive nearly the community or professional support they need. 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