And you are right the current one does not look so good, so I definitely expect them to show this, for sure if the great Blizzcon news is about their greatest competitor. and our Give and Receive Likes With over 7 years of experience with in-depth feature reporting, Steven's mission is to chronicle the fascinating ways that games intersect our lives. Downgrade to your items (no trade value) + having to buff Harvest is not a desirable outcome, Mathil: Sacred Blossom rate is garbage - will be re-evaluated, Doesn't like it being called "Smart Loot" - not necessarily better for your character, just better mods, Don't want your opinions when you play Hard Mode, will just use your data, Each league should be the best place to get their specific items (e.g. You've said from the beginning that Path of Exile is a hardcore game for hardcore gamers--but would you ever consider efforts to appeal to a broader player base? Shav cards) but getting devalued by Diviner's and Stacked Decks, Goal: Div Cards should roughly double the availability of the item, Staff feel like Stacked Decks are too generous, Unable to arbitrarily reduce div card bloat due to them being paid by supporters - but stopped selling Div Card slots. On a more positive note, I'm rooting for everyone to make great Action RPGs. // Mathil: that's for you guys to figure out, CW: how do we feel about Diablo 2 // Mathil: its a 20 year old dead game, Possible difference of mindset due to growing up playing different types of games/environment, Twinking levelling allowed by the "dictators", Levelling is supposed to be appropriate for low-skill players while later campaign is appropriate for mid-level player. PC Gamer spoke to Grinding Gear Games co-founder Chris Wilson about the same, who offered his thoughts on both titles' approach. Average value of Sirus drops > Maven - due to meta? But you never know, I guess. By clicking 'enter', you agree to GameSpot's Build Diversity vs Build Viability - should a build that is played 0.6% of the time be changed so it gets played 10% of the time? I hope Blizz learn the lesson the professor POE try to teach about Hash&Slash and online A-RPG : C.O.N.T.E.N.T. Correct me if I messed numbers with the premium tabs didnt play POE for a while. Limiting access to endgame but being tradeable (maps, invitations, Sulphite, etc.) Cannot mix due to being "too efficient to trade" by combining with website, Target Dummys for testing: prefer players use PVP or monsters to test, Minion stats: possible improvements to UI but concerned about info overload. We have been actively expanding our studio over the last few years so that we have the capacity to deliver both our regular thirteen-week cycle and also work on other projects such as Path of Exile 2 and the mobile game. Its down like 80-90% from launch. I know some will say cosmetics only will be fine then others chime with well QOL and stash/character slots but then we start moving into XP boosts and ready made 70s etc. The games foundations cannot be built around it - I dont want another RMAH debacle. Because Path of Exile is structured around temporary Challenge Leagues that remix the core game every few months, there's a kind of natural tide of players jumping in during the start of a league and waning over time. Endgame balanced around the top players (the average poe player doesn't play the game), Improving monster balance to be harder but not excessively overpowered (e.g. In 2018, Tencent came aboard as a majority investor. Our mobile team spent a lot of ExileCon chatting with players while they were playing the mobile project, and solicited feedback as people finished their sessions. Developer Grinding Gear Games held the first-ever fan convention, ExileCon, in the developer's home city of Auckland, New Zealand in November. Our goal [with our announcements] is to show how our game matches up so people can . Also interested in see any news about D4. My goal was for things to stay the same, both for our staff and for our players. if not, they are doing a disservice to their game and fans. How do you feel Path of Exile 2 stacks up against what Blizzard is trying to do with their game? Not saying no one will play it, but Im registered for tons of games I dont play anymore/games I tried and disliked. To this end, we only sell cosmetic microtransactions that let you dress your character up, and long-term stash storage space that doesn't benefit you in the field and is equivalent to (but more convenient than) just registering more free accounts to mule the items over to. Discreet Notifications There was so much energy and engagement between players and developers. Check out this comment for a user-submitted rough transcript. With Path of Exile reaching open beta just over two months ago, we caught up with Lead Designer Chris Wilson to talk about how the response has been and what is to . There were many highlights for me, but the one that stands out is the feeling of announcing Path of Exile 2 to millions of people. I don't think it's unreasonnable to ban Diablo Immortal from this sub to protect vulnerable people until Blizzard change the monetization system. This weekend Path of Exile developer Grinding Gear Games surprised fans with the announcement of Path of Exile 2 (opens in new tab). Famous for saying "F*ck that loser" when referring to a well respected and successful Diablo 2 developer. Ideally we'd want Path of Exile to be more approachable while also being deeper than it currently is. "I'm not planning to screw around with anything that makes it good. How much you will pay Diablo 4 ? By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Some of the other announcements included a Path of Exile mobile game, a 3.9.0 expansion for the base game, a Mac version and more. PoE and Immortal are targeting wildly different players it seems. [4] Threads were removed on Battle.net due to the amount of community vitriol. CW sent an email to WC apologizing for is inappropriate comment. We haven't decided which year to bring the convention back, but it's unlikely to be every single year. If both games are good, I think it's a win for everyone.". And that means that when people have enjoyed playing [Diablo 4], they can also enjoy playing us because it costs them nothing to get into it. [4] Wilson cited burnout as the reason for his departure from Team 3, as he had spent nearly a decade working on the same game. Im thinking and hoping their big POE 4.0 expansion will do something like that. Diablo III ROFL Chris Wilson (PoE) thinks D4 is going to be announced at Blizzcon this year. Will be interesting to see. Sorry, but you can't access this content! No one is playing LA anymore. Avatar & Profile customisation "They're going to get some things right and some things wrong. d2jsp wasn't popular for nothing, after a certain point you're better off trading rather than farming. I know the new skill system lets you do everything with the old one while removing some frustrations and adding some new stuff. In thisepisodeI am joined this time around by Chris Wilson, Lead Designer/Creator of Path of Exile. No 5 links. Our goal [with our announcements] is to show how our game matches up so people can think about the two products, and to show the best action RPG that we can make. And people will certainly be talking about both games. You're obviously having a lot of success with the way things are, but do you have anything in mind to help improve the onboarding experience for new players? Don't want to tune drop rates to not influence economy, Maven may or may not be benched for new endgame stuff, Downsides on items seem to overvalue the power of an item, Re-buffing Awakened Gems at Level 5+, want more utility Awakened Gems, Alt Quality Gems (especially Auras) seem fine, but Chris not currently involved in aurabot discussion, "When people get perfect items, they generally quit" vs "When people don't have a reasonable upgrade, they quit", Having to do 23 crafts per patch was excessive - # of monsters does not reflect the number of crafts, Diminishing returns - amount of effort to improve gear gets higher the better items you start with - balance seems off right now due to massive spikes in power, Going to re-evaluate Harvest craft weights but will not revert to original Harvest, Chris is fine with current rarities of Harvest Crafts (including Augments), Mathil: finding Augments/rare crafts are unrealistic for most players, 3.16 atlas/passive tree + 3.17 endgame may rebalance Harvest, If Harvest crafts were tradeable they would be overused and be market manipulated, If Harvest crafts WERE tradeable craft rates would also be nerfed severely, No Soulbound. so in an interview with some aussie i forgot his name chris wilson said "nobody will play diablo immortal, we are all playing path of exile" then i go to the main page of D:I and it has 30 million registered users. Path of. The products discussed here were independently chosen by our editors. Alternative endgames: Delve, Reddit, etc. Other builds will get neglected." Chris Wilson: It went so much better than we ever hoped. Registered users for a free game and actual players of said game in not the same thing though. We're thinking about whether 2021 or 2022 makes more sense for another event, and this honestly depends on when we'll next have a big enough set of compelling announcements to make. The changes we are making for Path of Exile 2 are very carefully made, with the goal of only increasing that number. He described his intent as being to make a good sequel, but not to stagnate the series. I know the new campaign is far better than the old one. First season I played I had a blast, got a lot of exalts that will get you gear. We'll begin emailing you updates about %gameName%. diablo2.io Members Chris_Wilson Copy diablo2.io is supported by ads Chris_Wilson 0 0 Tab 1 Tab 2 Tab 3 Tab 4 Tab 5 Tab 6 There are no trades in this tab. He was hired,[2] and became the lead designer of Diablo III. For more information, please see our If both games are good, I think it's a win for everyone. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. There will be an embargo on posts that share the topic of the livethread for the duration of the broadcast/event plus ~1 hour. POE 2.0 will be huge, they will correct their only weakness : The old graphics. "We're not in communication with Blizzard about their season start times, but if both companies were smart, they would stagger it so the season start times work well for both groups of players. Wilson later appologized for his words. POE evolve every new season, they put new system, maps, skill etc they put effort and big content. Its like a classic David vs. Goliath story. His obsession with the mechanics of a 20 year old game limited by 20 year old technology and ignoring 20 years of game design advancement is seriously hamstringing PoE development imo. Whats the peak POE 1,2 concurrent player count for D1? The mobile version of Path of Exile that was announced at ExileCon was described as being "experimental." Without money to spend, he spent an entire day watching the progress bar on a 25mb download of the Heroes of Might and Magic 2 demo that he then played for at least a hundred hours. Div Cards - great idea for pity target-farming (e.g. GameSpot may get a share of the revenue if you buy anything featured on our site. It's very hard to know the answers to these questions without playing the released game. Nearly a year has passed since the podcast with no further updates, so it seems like Path of Exile fans may be waiting closer to the two-year mark for the beta alone. Spiritual successor to Diablo 2, Tune into the livestream here; starting today at 1pm PDT (30 minutes from the time of this post). Hes an one-trick pony and only has one game under his belt that hes been milking for a decade. Minor spoilers for Life is Strange and Life is Strange 2. From another recent post stating that Chris should grow his beard back then it sounds like he looks like Mr. Clean with no hair on top or face. That is JAY WILSON from Diablo 3 (a total fail of a game developer) He's the one responsible for the catastrophe that was D3 before Reaper of Souls did some work to revive it. I can't tell because even the last, "You've got to grind, grind, grind at that grindstone". There were a hundred moving pieces . PoE 2 is I think called poe 4.0. That feeling is almost gone now unfortunately. If you look at other activision Titles and even Actiblizz titles the monetization is pretty extreme 2nd only to EA. So its good to hear that the droprate hs been adjusted just to keep yourself from dying of boredome doing the same grind all over again and getting nothing. Speaking to GameSpot at ExileCon in New Zealand today, founder Chris Wilson described Path of Exile 2 as a "next-generation" action RPG that can stand alongside Diablo IV--which presumably. Should be focused around incremental target farming (div cards, boss drops) - important to have target farming. Everyone is playing LA actually, PoE is dead. Deletes all Private Messages Privacy Policy. Visit our corporate site (opens in new tab). Do you think ExileCon will be back in 2020; what might you want to do differently? Use Drafts & Revisions He probably realized what a failure he is. CW: Hi, I'm Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games, here to get interrogated for 3 hours. Diablo 4 will undoubtably sell well at launch. Path of Exile 2 is a good opportunity for this, but we certainly have to be careful to not water down any systems that players currently enjoy. e.g. OP you might want to at least try and keep up. This has yielded heaps of feedback on the current version that we're still processing and making changes as a result of. he mentioned that going forward, they are going to have end game improvements every league instead of just annually. "I almost cried on the stage, it was such a strong set of emotions," Wilson tells GameSpot about his reaction to announcing Path of Exile 2 to a crowd of millions of people on-site and online. Monetization, if it must have it, needs to be tacked on at the end of development. If I'm a betting man, one of their announcements might involve a certain Diablo game [and they have been known to provide quality products as well]. This sub probably has a significant large portion of teenagers viewing it. There's just the question of manpower in terms of being able to commit to a project like that. * http://diabloii.net* Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DiabloIINet/* Twitter: https://twitter.com/DiabloIINet so we shall see. ! Chris Wilson: We have a lot of stuff to announce which we cant get into any details yet. To me, Path of Exile is a solid 90%. Details Bnet ID: Furbo#2611 Forum level: Trade Stats Refreshes daily Current trust level: 0 Active trades: 0 Sold trades (last 3 days): 0 All active trades Recently sold All-time sales: 1 Almost as an afterthought. Having said that, though, in our experience, every change we have made in the past to improve onboarding has had little or no impact on overall player retention. Or at least a few in GGG are. After a year and a half now, I feel that I can confidently say that we have achieved this. Terms of Use [1] Jay was the most frequently-interviewed member of the Diablo III team, and his quotes fill the content articles of this wiki. As you know, BlizzCon will be happening two weeks before ExileCon. And [Blizzard] won't know until people play ituntil the die is castand they've released something. [5], Wilson was responsible for Diablo III's combat design and physics engine. [2] He became aware of the first Diablo game after seeing it advertised on the back cover of Warcraft II. [2] He was responsible for all final decisions regarding the game. Private Messaging Whether it's colossal in-game wars in an MMO, or long-haul truckers who turn to games to protect them from the loneliness of the open road, Steven tries to unearth PC gaming's greatest untold stories. I hope that Diablo 4 is created as a game first and foremost, and not as a vehicle to deliver monetization. I cant wait. Why make a new game when you still have a a healthy income from the one you already have? But Grinding Gear Games co-founder Chris Wilson isn't worried. I do not believe that anything has changed either internally or externally at the studio as a result of the acquisition, other than a little more CEO work on my plate. By Adam Beck on April 2, 2013. If we can achieve to a broader player base without in any way hurting what makes Path of Exile great for hardcore players, then that'd be great. Want to stick to RPG formula of complete RNG, believe game is more fun this way - issues about things being target-farmable being accused of being RNG-gated. Busta_Dust 3 years ago #21 Mad_Cow46 posted. He later worked at Monolith Studios, Cavedog Entertainment, and Relic Entertainment. Ohwhy would he do that? If we have a crazy change like a new idea for the skill tree that might just be dangerous. Chase definition: valuable vs targetable. POE 2.0 will be huge, they will correct their only weakness : The old graphics. Jay Wilson was the lead designer of Diablo III. Its how these two companies retain players that matter. How have you been able to achieve this while still being active in releasing new content all the time, especially now as you take on more projects like Path of Exile 2 and the mobile game? One build will see a rise to the top and players are more likely to pick that build. However, not a hard no forever, just not now - problem with difficulty of taking stuff back in the future, Chase Uniques: Ziz: don't mean Headhunter/Mirrors - no one thinking "ooh, this map might drop a Headhunter". All rights reserved. The main driving decision will be if Grinding Gear has enough to show, and it's too early to say. We don't know. But yeah, his comments just reek of manbaby. The main development team and the people in charge of PoE did not make D2. Last edited by renderwurx on Nov 7, 2016, 11:32:57 AM, Path of Exile Atlas: The Lioneye's Watch Podcast #06 - Feat. Chris made a point of the last league having good player retention despite Lost Ark, etc. Announced just two weeks prior at BlizzCon 2019, Blizzard Entertainment's legendary action RPG is back in all its satanic, profane glory. In terms of going ahead with the project officially, we'll release it if it's a great game. A lot of people have a lot of fun with Diablo 3 regardless of what the hardcore fans and Path of Exile fans happen to think of it. Managing director Chris Wilson tells Gamasutra that PoE's supporter packs are a big part of the game's success story in addition to traditional microtransactions, the latter of which offer. It's been a big year for Path of Exile. By It was a good demo. "We sold $200,000 of packs in the first long weekend," Wilson said. Removing current league content: Ultimatum and Expedition staying. I fear for what this means for D4 where I expect MTX + DLCs + Expacs tbh. Seems to be the inevitable future, so I wouldnt be surprised if Immortal has more staying power. Yes D2 heavily influenced PoE and from time to time the devs of D2 have served as advisors to the devs of PoE, but I'm not sure any of them have ever actually worked on the game. Gem access limited based on character: fixing issues like Templar not getting Crit gems. At any rate you are 100% correct, CW made a fool of himself with that comment. Quad stash, premium tabs bundle together is more than 20$ unless they changed the price and I doubt anyone will setle with just ONE quad stash tab or just 6 premium tabs. Please don't use a Battle.net ID that has spaces in its username portion. That is JAY WILSON from Diablo 3 (a total fail of a game developer) He's the one responsible for the catastrophe that was D3 before Reaper of Souls did some work to revive it. [4] He agreed to the interview not expecting to work at Blizzard, but rather to get some information that might help his current position. Does an open world solve more problems than it causes? A lot of us went there because of the ARPG combat. Rather have one quality game from a dev than mass produced new garbage every year. "I know Path of Exile is good," he says. New crafting bench fixed most of the issues with those mods. This is something we have seen echoed by other free-to-play developers as well. We're constantly trying to improve the onboarding experience for Path of Exile. What is your response to Blizzard's recent Diablo 4 reveal? In case you missed it, check out Jonathan's talk about the POE game engine here. As we continue to ramp up the team size, we'll be able to make even faster work on these side projects. More than PoE. Certainly, it seems harmless to offer it as an alternative way to play and might help us bring the game to users whose PCs aren't powerful enough to play the game. Second after that nothing, all sht drops and in that case you are stuck with the crap build that needs special items to support it. Following the weekend's festivities, we chatted with GGG managing director Chris Wilson about all the big news, including how long projects like Path of Exile 2 and Path of Exile Mobile have been in the works, the design philosophy behind Path of Exile 2, and how Blizzard's now infamous Diablo Immortal announcement last year helped inform how to What is your approach to MTX and how do you avoid its pitfalls like pay-to-win and other icky situations? Chris Wilson makes a good point, but there are downsides as well. Our core developers working on our regular expansions have a good idea of what they can achieve in thirteen weeks and unless some big design aspects of the expansion need to change, it's usually quite comfortable. Legion was okay, but it destroyed the economy and almost made the game more fulfilling if played SSF now. It's going to be good for the genre. ", There's even potential for a healthy kind of balance for players that want to play both Diablo 4 and Path of Exile, Wilson suggests. - PCINVASION. Go to https://www.pathofexile.com/ to download now and check out the new league Expedition!Thanks to our sponsor NordVPN! Ziz trying to discuss the latter "Increase your odds above your baseline by playing in a certain area or fighting a boss". And he stole all the ideas for it from a much older game his competitor made. He worked together with Josh Mosqueira on this game. With a vastly improved graphics engine, animations, and deep reworks of core systems, Path of Exile 2 is an exciting step forward for the small New Zealand studio. Jay Wilson was the lead designer of Diablo III. Its a predatory, interactive cartoon aimed at people with more money than brains. As Diablo is moving into maintenance mode and PoE is pushing out content left and right,. Grinding Gear has been one of the most outspoken developers in the world regarding crunch, with Wilson saying in the past that he refuses to make his teams crunch. The game design decisions they make could be great for their game, or could detract from it. When other companies make a new Action RPG, they're taking a gamble. [Diablo 4] may be amazing or it might be bad. In this episode, I am joined this time around by Chris Wilson, Lead Designer/Creator of Path of Exile. Looking into it but no immediate changes, Will look into being able to do low tier Conquerors again, Shortening grind in 3.16 and new endgame in 3.17. "That 4.0.0 expansion is our version that is going to take on Diablo 4, as . When first seeing the post I thought hes going to appear on BlizzCon. CW sent an email to WC apologizing for is inappropriate comment. The stash is the only thing mandatory for POE 20$ : this is the price of the game. Chris made a lot for the aRPG genre, but he is failing to see how PoEs engine is making any comparison laughable. Cookie Notice Regardless of this, I don't think D4 will hold a candle to PoE or D2 for that matter. As of last week, they'd sold 82,240 packs (including 95 $1,000 packages). Majority investor end of development gameName % I feel that I can confidently that., I 'm not planning to screw around with anything that makes it good failing to see PoEs! 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