The failure results in Kamina being jailed while Simon is let off. The second movie, Lagann-hen, reveals that during the years he quits the Team Dai-Gurren. I personally think he wouldnt, because he would want a good fight, instead of going for the kill immediately. The ensuing conversation is interrupted by Yoko, who broke into the prison in order to rescue him. In part 1, Simon only had his strength and Kamina had his charisma, which both of those are necessary for a true leader, and Simon had gained both of those, making him a true leader. She could use the power of her Silver Crystal to seal Sonic and banish him out of existence or use her tiara to turn him into dust. Extrasensory Perception: Similar to Kamina, Simon could sense Viral's killing intent, and could dodge his sneak attack via the novel, shown in episode 15. Peak Simon only has probability manipulation with one attack, which is the attack that travels time. Goku VS Superman; Season 2. 4 wins (80%) One-Punch Man'sdeadly shinobi, Speed-o'-Sound Sonic, is similar to SEGA's Blue Blur in many ways. He is the ruler and overseer of all 12 universes, appointing Gods of Destruction such as Beerus and Champa in order to maintain the balance of his world. He only needs to be himself. During his appearance in the epilogue, Simon's left eye was shown to have developed Spirals, similar to Lordgenome's. Almost experimentally, Yoko asks Simon if he knew she was infatuated with Kamina, and he admits he did. After transforming the Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren, Simon's goggles turned into red sunglasses similar to Kamina's, but with three extra points to make them resemble a star (presumably a tribute to the recently-deceased Kittan). Sonic has defeated an impressive array of enemies, ranging from planet-busting kaiju to universe-ending demi-gods, but he is not unstoppable. All Rights Reserved. Because for Gohan, transforming into SSJ2 apparently turned a stomp around, which is a bit much for x2, So the point still stands, that Son Goku is At least 7.02 times more powerful than Simon, I mean his 3-A key isn't there. He is much more outgoing and fired-up as opposed to how he was during his tenure as leader of Kamina City. Simon's mech, the Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, is astronomically bigger than anything Super Sonic has ever faced in battle. The volcano they are looking at explodes, and Simon notes how it seems to him like his brother. lol goku in base instant transmission inside and one-shot simon with 1 finger. After meeting Nia, he temporarily forgot about his emotions in utter awe of her, though he sank once again into his depression after both he and Nia were safely aboard the Dai-Gurren. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. As Super Sonic, Sonic would have the strength and speed needed to keep pace with Naruto's strongest forms, and his invulnerability would make it difficult for Naruto to land any blows Sonic wouldn't shrug off. Helping lead the Dai-Gurren brigade, Yoko supports Simon wholeheartedly and fights tooth and nail to get him his wife back and ultimately save the universe. She jokingly asks if that was "the old male-bond connection going on, or what? Luffy's Observation Haki would let him keep track of Sonic's super-speed, but Sonic has more ways of countering Luffy's options. Even Sonic's super form is stated by the creators to be a clear homage to the iconic Super Saiyan transformation. Necros aren't good. Superhuman Strength: Even without the use of Spiral Power, Simon has a list of feats that showcases immense strength. Later that day, he unearths a large "face" in the ground, which he shows to Yoko and Kamina after Jeeha Village is attacked by a large Gunmen. After confronting Nia and making her briefly revert to her old self, Simon manages to convince her to let him stop the Human Annihilation System by taking control of the Cathedral Terra and keeping it from falling on Earth. Simon wins if Goku starts with a ki blast, and Goku wins if he starts with H2H, which he most likely does start with, There is no specifically considering that Goku has 4 forms superior to SSJ, and the multipliers for them are either unknown or inapplicable, because of their inconsistency, The multipliers accepted are for the SSJ to SSJ3, which you already know, Wait, they really were accepted? Race Simon does have feats of his stat amping abilities helping him catch up to characters that were stomping him, within a relatively short time. @bludymanikin777: How is he six dimensions above him? Let me start an actual fucking VS thread cause yall dont know how to do it Goku has defeated many enemies just as powerful as Super Sonic, if not more powerful, and his mastery in martial arts means he can overpower Sonic in direct combat. He knows that its a bad idea to keep feeding energy to someone like that. Simon had her memorial placed near Kamina's. If Goku starts with ki blasts Simon would absorb them and close the gap, and if he starts with H2H, Simon would sustain heavy damage. Before leaving, Yoko frees Viral at Simon's request and the trio regroup soon with the rest of the reformed Team Dai-Gurren who have finished their preparations to retaliate against Antispiral. Top 25 Strongest Heroes in Shonen Anime, Ranked! While trying to break Kamina out, Giha Village is attacked by a large Gunmen while a girl with a gun comes in to stop it. Shortly thereafter, Simon awakens and lays waste to the Beastman opposition. The true universal level threat wins. I could definitely see Goku paralyzing the mecha, using Simons own energy against him, essentially putting down the forcefield, Guys don't finish this thread out of spite owo, Or Simon could choose to use the MVMCs probability altering shots. He also carried a staff with a large drill on the tip. In the time that it would take him to create a mech (which he has never done in the series),. Against Dai-Gunzan the first time, Simon with his ability to read bedrock, immediately thought up a plan on how to trap Dai-Gunzan. The OP states that Simon starts with no mech, and without that, he's literally just a normal human. Two whimpy and shy teenagers that after obtaining powers thanks to an outside force grew to be some of the most powerful heroes on their verse by never giving up and believing in themselves. As Goku powers up or transforms, Simon will probably just create a universe-sized mecha to utterly annihilate the Saiyan. They have a brother who is also apart of the same race but is the complete opposite of them (Yasha being the brother in law of Asura | Raditz being the older brother of Goku) (While Asura is loud and angry, Yasha is calm and collective | While Goku is loud and energetic, Raditz is composed and prideful) and is the uncle of their brother's . They project the user's Spiral Power into the mech. Towards the end of the final battle, Simon with Nia in Lagann, were able to kill Antispiral, with their combined Spiral Power. Simon can undoubtedly beat Goku without even expending his absolute power. Sonic may have the strength to take down gods capable of consuming entire timelines as Super Sonic, but witches like Bernkastel can grow big enough to hold infinite-sized universes in the palm of her hand, making her more powerful than anything Sonic's faced. I already voted goku why did you clear my vote? When she winks at him, he in bashfulness, but nonetheless looked off or just stares. By the end, Simon becomes a God-like figure with command over everything as we know it. Tenyais fast, but Sonic is faster. These same feelings forbade him from operating Lagann correctly. Like Sonic the Hedgehog, Speed-o'-Sound Sonic isrenowned for his incredible speed and fighting ability. Simon never fought using Lagann as most of the time, he was in Gurren Lagann or taking control of a Gunmen. He also had a huge fear of earthquakes after losing his parents in one, though this changed when he discovered that the Gunmen were responsible for those earthquakes. She was born with a super-human ability called The End, which allows her to copy other powers 120% better than the original user. While those around Simon all claimed he was too meek to achieve anything without Kamina's encouragement, Kamina himself was able to see Simon's full potential and most of his actions were fueled by his goal of getting Simon to achieve this potential. @alextheboss: I don't think Goku could hurt someone who is 6 dimensions above him, also Simon has probability manipulation, he can just make the chances of Goku's attacks hitting to be 0%, @alextheboss: the movies are canon and the most recent version of gurren Lagann, so we're using the movie where Simon fist fought The Anti-Spiral by himself. This is even corroborated by him being able to keep up with an elite soldier of Lordgenome's army (Viral), in prison. This, as a man, was much to his chagrin. You are using an out of date browser. Though the extent of his relationship with Nia is never fully explored, Gainax Studios has stated that "seven years is a long time" and that "During the seven year timeskip Simon and Nia did what had to be done." The incident traumatized him and gave him a harsh phobia for earthquakes. Simon the Digger (Gurren Lagann) Votes: 42 48.3% Son Goku (Dragon Ball) Votes: 45 51.7% Total voters 87 Poll closed May 30, 2021. No way. Simon, losing the fight, was able to push himself to victory by stabbing the Spiral King in the chest with his Core Drill after hearing Nia's plea. Now dont get me wrong, Goku is extremely powerful, and the universe of Dragon Ball ranks among the very top; however, I doubt he stands a chance against a 52.8 billion light-year mecha with the power to destroy galaxies. Browse AD FREE for less than 84 a month with an SHDb membership.. Simon The Digger (Gurren Lagann) vs Goku Created by Trillxgy. On the night before the raid on Dai-Gunzan, Simon spends a short time talking with his crush, however, something in their interaction spurs Yoko to cut herself off, deciding to end the conversation and leave rather than leap into whatever she came there to talk to him about. So I'm curious what everyone thinks would happen in a battle with Goku (any itteration, He'll need it in my opinion) vs a human who basically forced evolution to it's ultimate godlike form. Technically the movie is non-canon, and in the show Simon never used Spiral Energy without either the core drill or a mecha to focus it that I can recall. Epic Dope is the one-stop for all things anime, manga, webtoons, and more! Anti spiral hit simon with the big bang too and simon ate it and added it to his power. Simons mastery over Spiral Energy allows him to do anything as long as he has enough fighting will, which all main characters have in plenty. Not only has Sonic resisted mind control, making Hiei's moot, but he regularly defeats Silver the Hedgehog, who can also move things with telekinesis. Son Goku (Dragon Ball Super) [Battle of Gods Saga], The Legendary Super Saiyan Goku VS The Data Dark Lord, Goku starts in Super Saiyan (This is Goku at the point where the power of SSJG was absorbed into his base form). Even after mastering his immense Spiral Power, however, Simon refuses to see himself as a god, and instead thinks of himself only as 'Simon the Digger'. One day, they find an ancient artifact that was the key to a war artifact, which they name Lagann. in the tournament of power he shook the world of void which is infinite nothingness from just his existence in ultra instinct. With his hand drill, he is capable of creating illogically large holes within seconds. Kittan). It's no secret that the Sonic the Hedgehog series draws heavy inspirations from Dragon Ball Z. It is during this time Simon meets Nia, and the two immediately develop a strong friendship. With his victory, Simon returns to his friends. What does Simon open with? I don't think there's any consensus about how strong he actually is, so I decided to put him against the most clickbaity anime universal(?) He has no limits. And there is no remote control, Simon directly controls from inside, I highly doubt that simon can stat amp that fast in such a short period of time at the start of the fight. Leaving Rossiu at the command of Kamina City in his absence, Simon and the rest of Team Dai-Gurren take control of the Cathedral Terra, renamed the Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren, and launch themselves into deep space to recover Nia from Antispiral's grasp. Simon can undoubtedly beat Goku without even expending his absolute power. Goku could use God Bind to paralyze someone, like in the Broly movie, which is also a good first move. and if u add things up that means he has a level of infinite power. At the start of the series, he was a shy, extremely withdrawn boy, finding solace only whilst digging tunnels for the expansion of Jiha village. As Sailor Moon, Usagi has many ways of countering Sonic's power-ups and super form. Yes. Gets stomped with it. He on his own has never shown the ability to construct something of that scale. Goku one shots. When Gimmy suggest he use Spiral Power to revive the dead and bring Nia and their allies back to life, Yoko tells Gimmy that Simon isn't God, and Simon explains "Those who are dead are dead. With Giga Drill Break, it creates a drill that is literally ten times the already unfathomable weapon. So this match goes to whoever does what first. The OP states that Simon starts with no mech, and without that, he's literally just a normal human. He revels in being able to once again fight alongside his friends. She also has access to Lambda Power, which once restored her body after it was completely destroyed by the Galaxy Cauldron, making it difficult for Sonic to land any fatal blows. I could do the math, but you get the point. Simon responds with "Sure you will, because The Lights in the Sky are Stars" and finally reveals his elderly face, lit up by the light given off by the Gunmen, a spiral-pattern revealed on the left eye. ttgl is bigger/same size as a universe. Simon is capable of creating the Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, after absorbing the Infinity Big Bang Storm. After the timeskip, Simon has a relatively drastic change of wardrobe. Thanks. Sonic has defeated an impressive array of enemies, ranging from planet-bustingkaiju to universe-ending demi-gods, but he is not unstoppable. Simon The Digger VS Ben Tennyson Archie Sonic vs. Simon the Digger Kyle Rayner VS Simon the Digger Simon The Digger VS Lelouch vi Britannia Simon the Digger vs Thanos Anos Voldigoad (The Misfit of Demon King Academy) Arceus Archie Sonic (Sonic the Hedgehog) Alucard (Castlevania) Dialga The . An overjoyed Simon was horrified to learn that his new fiance had disappeared and reappeared as the Anti-Spiral messenger. She could trap Sonic in a never-ending time loop, destroy his soul, or deny his existence altogether and make it so he never existed. Core Drill: The Core Drill are keys to Lagann-type Gunmen. It would also be hard for Goku to actually teleport in front of Simon himself, since IT needs ki (or any similar energy source) to actually go to that object. It may not display this or other websites correctly. - There is no anime or manga that hes not aware of. Confused, Simon wasn't able to focus on the battle until Kamina punched him in the face. @ghostwarren: if we're talking main characters. For the remaining 4 years, who knows how much more skill Simon has acquired. Simon and Nia struggling to overcome her father. With the aid of the "Gunmen" which Kamina names the "Lagann ", Simon destroys the large Gunmen attacking Giha and rises to the surface world. Full Name After the 20 year timeskip during the epilogue, Simon has become visibly taller and has an extremely muscular and tan body. In addition, he is even more level-headed than he was before. Against Dai-Gundo, Simon thought up the idea of attacking directly under Guame, with nobody being able to immediately notice that he wasn't on the field anymore, but rather under it. just because of the ap? Simon, with his unfathomably large amount of Spiral Power, was able to catch up to match Antispiral's own power via evolution, and eventually overtake him as the universe's most powerful. 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