The hope would be that Vista will place more emphasis on getting the Remington primer production capacity increased substantially and quickly. I was shooting a thousand rounds a month but now the trips to the range are few and far between. I don't see any federal legislation on ammo or components so that should ease some minds . Obama, Trump, Biden doesnt seem to matter. If they can get prices sane I will buy a couple cases on principle. I did not buy any last week, but a month of so ago, they let my wife and I buy 200 each. They are making primers at the same normal rate and not increasing production on purpose. Were losing right now because of speculation. They work for us and need to be reminded of that. However when you place limits of 1,000 on primers plus hazmat and shipping doesnt make financial sense. At least with the hand primer I can watch a TV show and prime. I have been without before and its no fun. They want to curtail your right to keep and bear arms, so when they control the ammo, they control your firearms. Great civilizations, societies, empires, etc. I expect that there will be some availability in mid-December, except for that being Christmas etc. The orange one. Unfortunately, the reality is there are numerous reasons why they have become nearly extinct in reloading outlets. I dont care, this means ammo prices are finally about to take a *major* drop. Really appreciate it. Disruptions in the supply chain have also made a big impact on the availability of primers. The price went up 30-40% and stayed there. NO GOD, NO HOPE. Apparently they cant or else they would have already done it. Minuteman. I have been wondering where all the primers have gone. A quick look at places like Gunbroker show plenty of primers are available unfortunately, they are often 2 to 5 times normal MSRP. Now Seeking. The platform Biden-Harris ran on openly stated they have the desire to shut down interstate commerce for firearms and firearm related purchases. Generally I get discounts for purchasing this volume. CCI Standard Primers $ 56. These price increases are from capitalism and whatever the market will bear for those not prepared when there is a shortage and will have to pay a substantial price increase for their needed product. We never applied a cowboy law mentality to gun ownership. Limiting purchases to 1,000 is ok if I can have the order held and combined with other orders to minimize hazmat, though I understand why PV has no interest in allowing a layaway approach. I for one am not affected by this as I stocked up a About one-fifth of these buyers were first-time purchasers, and the gun purchase trend continued until the end of 2021. If quantity restrictions are to be on orders, it needs to allow big enough order to off set the haz-mat fee. Along with Vista, Winchester ( Olin) is revving up the Lake City arsenal. With the 12 & 20ga reloaders, a Lee turret press Ive left mounted and the Dillon, Ive run out of room. Vince, thanks for the pragmatic approach to our countrys CANCER! Its all those youngsters buying those ar14s and thinking that need a glock- this aint the Boogaloo- your preventing families from hunting. Thank you, guys. Just my thoughts. So,,,,,AMERICA FIRST!!!!!!!!!!! I believe part of the shortage is artificial. Gun owners never learn. I understand the reasoning behind limiting primer purchases to 1k. What do you think a realistic time frame might be that primers will become available? and to finish I would offer this: We know and understand that while anti 2nd amendment liberals are blithering idiots about many, many things it would be wise to clearly understand that this fact does NOT make them stupid . We are not seeing that this time as the Murom Apparatus Producing plant is only producing at partial capacity due to the COVID-19 restrictions. The number of profiteers seems pretty high. But, we are very hopeful that these changes will have a positive effect on production and distribution in the long run. It is ridiculous for what the sporting stores are charging for 1000 primers.I will most definitely buy my primers from you. Unless you have less than 100 rounds for your various calibers. No limit,happy to help and friendliest people youll ever meet! Texas made primers. Just my opinion, but! We have had RECORD SALES of firearms for TWO YEARS. I guess the main thing that causes me to question the validity of this primer shortage and/or ammo shortage in general is that you can go to a website like bullseye north and see that theres plenty available in Canada. What you said is absolute nonsense. Why then is .22 LR so hard to get now and why is the price so high? Jan 21, 2021 #2 . Hallelujah and amen, brother Boch! As a SASS member I shoot and reload all my match ammo. However I can never walk through a gun shop without buying somethinggood shootin. Oct 2, 2011 262 83 50 Billings MT. Reactions: camocorvette, GordonFreeman, orkan and 2 others. Thanks for this information. Kinda like when a winter storm is coming, you have people buy up a bunch of generators and when lowes or home depot sells out, they sit out in the parking lots and sell them for a large profit.. The lack of foreign primers on the market is a major reason we believe this shortage is going to last for quite some time. The panic buying always starts when the Democrats are in power or close to getting their hands on power. With Remington in a state of financial insolvency for the past two years, suppliers were demanding payment upon delivery for products. Thank you sir for bailing us out of this mess . As for the new primer facility, it will be cranking out all sizes of primers for Expansion's ammo and also to supply several small, medium, and large ammo makers within the year. You buy when the Republicans are in power because people think the supply chains are safe. And unless they can make over 30 million primers PER DAY it will not make any impact. So if they have so many then why do we have none? And that was just the civilian market ammo. Hopefully things will get back to normal soon!! Our founding fathers formed this nation with God, foremost in their minds. (Cue, Joe Piscapo in Johnny Dangerously). My $.02 , as long as Biden wins and the conservatives don't go all postal . I am stocked up, so Ill just quit competition, and try to help out my friends, basic needs. 69. We are seeing the definition of spiritual warfare taking place before our very eyes. (Edited) Primers were not in short supply in Pennsylvania until about November of 2019. There was a surplus of AR-15s last year at $800. Now, if somebody would do the same for powder. All testing should stop because the false numbers they produce are driving public hysteria. Hodkinson says the risk of death for people under the age of 65 is one in three-hundred thousand and it is outrageous to shut down society for what is merely just another bad flu. https://www.brighteon.com/3b58b1dc-107d-4341-b9da-3955499d8281 So to top it off we have a primer shortage due to a HOAX. I mostly shoot rimfire around the house, anyway.. Buckle up, its gonna be a bumpy 2 years till Congress goes Rep. Winchester's primer production is independent of Federal and CCI. Thats a great idea Tom. This is gonna be great. Having been through this before, I was prepared this time. Personally and as a nation, Vince, so true. Its gonna squeeze the major players hard, and about time. Available funds never allowed me to stock up so I didnt. Keep up the fight patriots! When so, they could ship automatically or maybe trigger an automatically generated email notice that would need to be responded to within X amount of time to complete the sale and shipment. Feb 22, 2022. the fly in that ointment is my fellow competitors did not so i either share {not} or compete with myself? Seems a bit weird to me. Most serious gunners had a supply of ammunition and reloading supplies. for $120 a brick by that evening? Details. Capitalism is a great thing till people start putting it above a states choice and using the profits from it to buy laws to contradict them. GM150M. Full Member. Thanks for the article, can you set up to let people know when you get primers ? Really, Im a lily white snowflake liberal. To believe its cheaper today, especially to a serious reloader is hardly true. Most new gun owners are opting for 9mm and other popular centerfire chamberings. Im tempted to go through the exercise of disassembling loaded 62 grain 5.56, resizing and reforming at least 500 rounds to 300 Blackout. Seriously do not live out of the gun shop. We are slowly facing a bad mojo and there seems to be no slowdown or stoppage. A$20 hazmat fee is not worth it when your competitors have 5k limits. And brass. RELATED - Supreme Court Gun Cases 2022: Concealed Carry in the Spotlight Are you guys planning on raising maximum order back to 5000 at some point? When supply does improve, remember folks.stack it high and stack it deep. Advertise bulk semi-tractor trailer loads, hook up, and drive off. I appreciate the time Powder Valley took to print this because I was wondering where the Wolf primers were. No Limit and $70 a thou- gone in a few hours if that. It's no secret that the demand for firearms and ammunition has reached record levels due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the civil unrest in cities around the United States, and the prospect of an anti-gun president on the horizon. Thank you for this article, I found it a good read. This is going to really hurt competition shooting. The . I went inside and was treated to iodine, a band aid and a lecture by my grandmother about stupidity. Thanks for the info. Outdoor shooting is a great hobby and that is about my only vice. . CCI Primers #11 Percussion Caps 100-Count $ 11 99 11 dollars 99 cents. Leaving us all with expensive boat anchors. Only located one brick of small pistol std primers, at $75 for the brick. I think it is a quiet way to disarm US gun owners. Although we've spoken to a few manufacturers over the past months . Cost Range. Keep up the good work. Get a set of Federal Playing Cards for $1 with ammo purchase. There is serious demand in the industry for this product and right now, for various reasons, the supply chain is falling woefully short. In this critical time Im afraid we are going to need them more than ever Respfully. With the recent purchase of Remington by Vista, there is a good chance that Vista will be diverting CCI and Federal primers that would typically go to reloaders to Remington ammunition production. We believe this is having an impact on availability, but probably not to the extreme that many think. Stock up when there is abundance . . Its time for a new primer manufacturer to step forward. I wont turn on my fellow American, but Ill have to defend my family. Available. I am just going to wait, shoot less, and hopefully production will eventually overtake the shortages and we can all pay a fair price for things. Havent manufacturers realized this isnt a temporary bump but a new level of demand? Its on Fantasy Island and will never get started, or. It will not end soon if our Republic is challenged by a Biden/Harris administration ensues. Maybe Ill just throw the bullets really hard, or buy a slingshot/wrist rocket. One other thing, hand loading was once upon a time more economical that buying factory loads. But will they work in a Dillon? They plan on employing more than 400 by 2023 and have plans beyond that. A mix of the Covid-19 pandemic, civil unrest, and the possibility of an anti-2nd amendment President and Senate has caused demand to skyrocket. You didnt mention the political agenda of the anti gun left. As it takes about a minute per round to reload, you're looking at spending at least 16 hours to produce . I dont care which so long as its a known. This is a grim time to say the least but I am hoping for the best for all of us and that the skudel but is wrong Im surprised that the Chinese havent taken advantage of this situation and flood the market over here. I did that very thing of taking advantage of low price ammo back since 2005 and forward till 2015. Read my other post about Sheeple. Remington simply did not have the financial capabilities to have an abundance of raw materials on hand and had to shutter some of their production capacity. Ill be glad when this BS is over. With shortages of bullets, powder, brass and primers, that has simply not been the case. Sweet momories of Cap Guns and recess! $100 million invested in the factory, and they hired the neighbors nephew with a harbor freight welder to make the sign on their gate. I dont care if they work in a Dillon tube or not just so they work in the cartridges. Thanks for nothing Nanook!!!! They are fairly short on match grade primers but I bet if you start looking around your area you may be surprised by what you find. Manufacturers are, for the most part, unwilling to invest in new productive capacity. It implies selfish or self-serving behavior. We have a source for 9 million small pistol and 3 million rifle primers. Thank you, Bryan R., for this very informative and comprehensive message. A Closer Look at the Primer Shortage. It is gun control that they couldnt get done in the courts. Raw materials are not being mined/ processed in this country. Manufacturers are trying to raise prices by not meeting demand. By doing so, a shooter avoids the ups and downs of supply and demand. Do Powder Valley employees do what Ive heard about another big retailer, and their employees tell all their friends and family and hold them back and then poof.theyre out of primers! We all know home land and the other armed forces have put in orders for ammo that will keep all manufacturers tied up for 3 to 4 years in the wake there might be a round 2 of a civil war to speek. That's what industry experts tell us: "With [ammunition] demand far outstripping supply and inventory levels in the channel at all-time lows, we see strong demand continuing [. Thank you. There are definitely some profiteers who buy primers and then sell them on auction sites or other multi list sites. But Im still on the hunt. But the shortage isn't only caused by high demand. Lets see I need shotgun, small and larger rifle and pistol. Picked up a 300 Blackout AR upper a few months ago. 2. Its very real and they have money behind them. As Americans We all support the Second Amendment. #1. By focusing on just living our lives we have allowed subversives to influence our schools, our churches and our government. For notbeing aware and ignorance. According to publicly available data, since 2015 Olin has received more than 1,600 federal contracts to supply ammunition and components to federal agencies. We have an extremely large number of new reloaders who have entered the market. Badger Ordnance near Baraboo, WI has been completely demolished. John Richardson over at No Lawyers Only Guns & Money blog put it all together in a report thats great news for Americas gun owners and reloaders. Overall a good article. I think you better do your research some more, theres lots of us liberals that are die hard gun supporters! Thats WHY!!! And yes, I did purchase primers after the last issue and am good to go. Site Links. Courts have upheld their law. So I load for almost nothing if I can get primers. I f you could up it to 3000 per person, the hazmat and shipping fees will not be so painful. Outstanding news! Primers were available at a large sporting good, and gun shop near me as of last week. Especially the last paragraph. They plan on employing more than 400 by 2023 and have plans beyond that. CCI APS Primers $ 36. HURRY UP IS THE RIGHT ANSWER! Thank you for the info I would like to see the shooting community be a little less greedy if you have enough let those in need buy some. Email is simply not the way to go. With modern manufacturing the availability of primers should had improved but it hasnt. 426 likes, 3 comments - Sunset Makeup (@sunsetmakeupofficial) on Instagram on April 17, 2023: "Our Sunset Makeup Felt Tip Eyeliners Available now at sunsetmakeup.com ." Sunset Makeup on Instagram: "Our Sunset Makeup Felt Tip Eyeliners Available now at sunsetmakeup.com Our DMs are permanently . After the 2013 scare, primers could be bought by the tray locally before they could be bought by the brick online, and that was before quantity restrictions were ultimately lifted. If I ration what I have, for example, planning on attending several majors and club matches forces me to eliminate all live fire practice until spring. Heard on the street is that there will soon be a shortage of golf balls since our lame duck president is finding time to play much more golf. I would however object to the use of the word hoarding. And that was several months a go. Normally, we would say stock up. But that time has passed, and I would encourage everyone to learn from this. dave jones, Long time PV customer, I whole heartedly agree with your explanation. Honestly, I dont understand why. And not a single primer will be out there doors until late 2023 at best. CCI Primers, Remington Primers, Winchester Primers, Federal Primers, Cheddite Primers . Id shot over 42K for the year with about 22K in primers left. Because we have a level 7 FFL we have options. Finally a thorough, realistic explanation. Me and my best friend at the ripe old age of 6 got all the caps we could and cut them open and put the powder into a pile. Put him first and he will lead us to where we need to be! All these big companies bought up all the little companies so with the few suppliers we have now we fall to the mercy of their mis-management. Big primer flash equaled faster powder burn which resulted in pressure signs. Store For Availability. All the years of letting God be taken out of society has caught up to us but its not too late to put Him back in charge. I will have check for more recent prices. Great more primers for the horders to buy up and never use, just in case shit hits the fan like you really have a chance! The use of stockpile does not lend itself to a negative implication. Capitalism is dead and we fall victim to 1 supply chain breaking a link. Of all the components needed to reload ammo, it seems primers are the toughest to find, prompting many reloaders to refer to the current crisis as The Great Primer Shortage of 2020. The primer supply shortage doesnt just affect reloaders, though. Our President said that He was told We have no ammunition . Something I can add is, this is my 30th year in law enforcement and we have great concerns about ammo as well. Thank you folks at Powder Valley for taking the time to give a detailed explanation of what is going on. Unfortunately, knitting needles are also in short supply, and the demand for knitting needles has sky rocketed right along with primers. Manufacturers are not suppling them in any sizable amounts to distributors and the distributors (when they get them) cannot keep them in stock for more than a few hours. Probably best answer to the situation, thanks. They are running 2 shifts along with Help wanted signs. : r/reloading. I am sure the Covid-19 problem has taken its toll, but to think that the world has stopped producing ammo makes no sense. You literally vote for xxxxxxxxx who promise to take them away or institute bans. Enough that even with hazmat shipping it was under 3 cents a primer. Rio 209 Shotgun Primers $ 39. Read on as the experts from Powder Valley delve deeper into the primer shortage of 2020. We are all smart enough to have meaningful discussion without demonizing the political opposition. While Im aware of the desire and support efforts to confound the profiteers from buying quantity and reselling them, Power Valleys current primer restrictions are not helpful. Thanks for the explanation of where have all the primers gone ! Michael my local club has been getting pull down primers, powder and shot that are suppose to be from Federals disassembled. Soon there will be someone from the government coming around with a supply to try to pull over your eyes. Our government now is corrupted until we get a new president things will stay the same. The new administration is definitely anti gun and anti 2A, and right now they have the ability to really hurt that community with the current situation. Wait, um. Ive reduced my shooting and have a stash of ammo. Because its not only consumers buying primers and then turning them into profit on gunbroker and the likes, its also retailers and retailer employees doing the same thing.. I had really cut back on shotgun for a while. Thanks for all of the hard work you folks do. See link below. But as a consumer now, I see what appears to be the available markets that produce ammo to obtain primers for the popular calibers. Probably wont get to use it until I can get more primers. https://www.bullseyenorth.com/reloading-primers/browse/page/2. I agree so maney new shooters and our fair share of hoarders makes it difacult for a real to keep up. This only works if Olin can meet the demand. I suggest the rest of the reloaders reading this forum quietly build up their own stock pile when the current shortage is over. Has Powder Valley received any primers? Full Member. What I take away form this is the a small group of folks have taken what supplies there are and pushed them into the secondary market, just like what occurred with powder. Theyre defending their interpretation of it. The personal ammo makers are a huge part of their sales and will always be there because they are loyal shooters. Reload your primers. 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